Possible Family of John Calvin Green (born mid-late 1700s)

Please be advised that this family structure is not proven. Research is on-going and the extent of what I know is posted here. It is hoped that other researchers working on this line will contact me through the comment section below so we can collaborate on establishing the true family structure. The only verified child of John Calvin Green is Edwin/Edward Harmon Green (ca 1812-ca 1908). He married in Rutherford County, North Carolina, in 1839 and moved to Georgia by 1850. Except for a move to Gordon County before or about 1870 (he is enumerated there on the 1870 U.S. census), he resided in Bartow County, Georgia, until at least 1880. Sometime later, he and wife Nancy moved to St. Clair or Blount or Etowah County, Alabama, to live with his son, William Roland Green. Ed is presumed to have died there. His wife, Nancy Crow Smith, died in Alabama in 1896. They are said to be buried in the Old Pell City Cemetery, Pell City, St. Clair County, Alabama. See yesterday’s post for additional information. Contact me for source citations regarding the family of Edwin Harmon Green and Nancy Crow (Smith) Green.

The material cited below for the children of John Calvin Green (born 1700s) was obtained from:

Eastern Cherokee Applications of the U.S. Court of Claims, 1906-1909, Record Group 75 (Bureau of Indian Affairs), Microfilm M1104, Roll 310, John Calvin Green, Application No. 40176.

The birth order shown below for the probable children of John Calvin Green (1700s) is based on the order the children were named on the application. It is assumed that this ordering represents birth order. This is not certain. Note the similarity of names of Edwin H. Green’s children to those of his probable siblings.

1-John Calvin “Grandsir/Rancer” Green; born: about 1770s-1780s1

2-Richard L. Green; born: about 1802; died: before 1907

2-Roland Green; born: about 1804; died: before 1907

2-Richard Green; born: about 1806; died: before 1907

2-Thomas Green; born: about 1808; died: before 1907

2-Edwin Harmon Green; born: about 1812, North Carolina or South Carolina; died: about 1907, PellCity, St. Clair County, Alabama

+Nancy Crow Smith; born: 1816, South Carolina; married: 30 Mar 1839, Rutherford County, North Carolina; died: 23 Feb 1896, Blount County, Alabama

3-Thomas M. Green; born: 16 Mar 1839, North Carolina; died: 30 Sep 1892, Bartow County, Georgia

3-Mary A. “Molly” Green; born: Jun 1841, North Carolina; died: 13 Aug 1912

3-John Calvin Green; born: 3 Jun 1843, Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, South Carolina; died: 24 May 1924, Bartow County, Georgia

3-Martha J. “Mattie” Green; born: about 1846, North Carolina or Georgia

3-Lewis Richard Green; born: 19 Sep 1848, North Carolina or Georgia; died: 26 May 1910, Pell City, St. Clair County, Alabama

3-William Roland Green; born: 28 Aug 1852, probably Bartow County, Georgia; died: 22 Sep 1935, Pell City, St. Clair County, Alabama

3-Nancy C. “Nannie” Green; born: 28 Aug 1852, probably Bartow County, Georgia; died: 12 Dec 1900, Gordon County, Georgia [twin to William Roland Green]

2-Calvin Green; born: about 1812; died: beforeore 1907

2-Jack Green; born: about 1814; died: before 1907

2-Daniel Green; born: about 1816; died: before 1907

2-Caroline Green; born: about 1818; died: before 1907

2-Elizabeth Green; born: about 1820; died: before 1907

2-May Green; born: about 1822; died: before 1907

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Edwin Harmon Green (ca1812-ca1908) – His Siblings & Parents

Very little is known regarding the parents and siblings of Edwin Harmon Green. His father’s name has been passed down as “Rancer.” A cousin in Alabama speculates that it could have been a corruption of “Grandsir,” an old term for grandfather. I’ve never found a person by that name or similar spelling in any record, either online or on paper. And,  EXCEPT for the following Guion Miller Roll application, I’ve never found possible names for Edwin’s father & siblings – please read on.

Edwin Harmon Green suddenly appears in Rutherford County, N. C. where he married Nancy Crow Smith in 1839. Their third known child, John Calvin Green, was born in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, S. C., in 1843. The family moved to Georgia about 1844 and settled in Bartow County by 1850. They remained there until about the late 1880s when they moved to Alabama to live with their son, William Roland Green.

In 1907, John Calvin Green, son of Edwin, filed an application for compensation due from the United States to descendants of the Eastern Cherokee Nation under various treaties. This was the 1906 Eastern Cherokee Roll, also known as the Miller Roll of 1906 for Guion Miller who was in charge of compiling it. An index to the roll is online and copies can be obtained from the National Archives or from microfilm which can be ordered from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, through your local Family Search Center (familysearch.org has a list that can be searched by zip code).

John’s application (No. 40176) was rejected, but contains the following information in Questions 17-20. His son, James E. Green also filed an application (No. 38130) which was rejected.  [Text in brackets added for clarity.]

Q 17.  State English and Indian names of your grandparents on both father’s and mother’s side, if possible:

A.  Father’s Side. [Grandfather:] John Calvin Green; [Grandmother:] Don’t remember [Indian names not given.]

A.  Mother’s Side: [Grandfather:] _____ Smith; [Grandmother:] Mime Pool (Indian &  maiden name of my grandmother)

Q 18.  Where were they born?

A.  Don’t Know

Q 19.  Where did they reside in 1851, if living at that time?

A.  Dead

Q 20. Give names of all their children, and residence, if possible:

A. (1) Richard L. Green,  Dead (2) Rowlen Green, Dead (3) Richard Green, Dead (4) Thomas Green, Dead (5) Edward H. Green, Alabama [this is Edwin Harmon Green, aka Edward H.] (6) Calvin Green, Dead (7) Jack Green, Dead (8) Daniel Green, Dead (9) Caroline Green, Dead (10) Elizabeth Green, Dead (11) May Green, Dead

If any of these names are found in your family lines, please comment below. I am happy to share what I have on this line, which appears to come from Spartanburg County, S.C., possibly briefly into North Carolina, and then into Bartow County, Georgia, and nearby counties. Some descendants later moved to Blount and St. Clair Counties, Alabama.